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European-made vs. American-made equipment?

There is a lot of discussion between Chinese-made and American-made equipment. What about machines and equipment made in Italy or Germany versus ones made in the good ol' US of A?


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Frederick Lam from BigTray

There is no general blanket theory of quality for European vs. American.  It comes down to the specific niche equipment you are looking for.  Many European manufacturers specialize in high-end premium lines of specialty equipment that they dedicate their quality and focus on making.

Oct 16, 2013

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Steven Judge from Bob-White Systems, Inc.

Within the dairy industry US regulations are often more strict than EU standards.  Before you make a big commitment to buy EU equipment for the US market be sure it complies with all pertinent regulations.  

Jan 18, 2017

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DJ Phillips from Specialty Food Process Technologies

The issue with imported vs domestic equipment boils down to technical support, spare parts availability, and compliance with regulatory standards.  European/Asian dairy standards may not be as rigorous as US standards.  There may be other issues - such as electrical code compliance or pressure containing heat exchangers - that do not comply with local code requirements.  Technical support may not be readily available or in your language.  Spare parts may have long lead times or use metric sizes not readily available in the US.  There may be import duties that are half of the equipment cost.  Don't forget about the cost of the foreign currency (exchange rate).  Our equipment is 100% US manufacture and complies with all US regulatory requirements.

Jan 3, 2017

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Vlad Pivovar from TBD [837]

Our company is ISO9001 certified. One of the best in Eastern Europe. Our product buys Western Europe, due to the good quality and good price.
Orion Group LTD, Kyiv, Ukraine 
orionmach.com

Oct 28, 2016

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Shannon Lewis from The Compleat Winemaker

There is good American equipment and good European equipment.  TCW uses the best of both.  We take bare Italian equipment and add electrical that is easy to understand, use and replace- if needed- here in the US.  We take Swiss corkers and customize them to work best for the bottle designs and winemaking styles used here.  No one country has it all.  Use the best from each world.

Jul 7, 2014

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Peter O'Brien at Great Engineering Pty Ltd

We manufacture the worlds number one in orientation label machine. Chivas Regal have bought their 7th BenchMAX from us in July. Enjoy video Chivas Orientation Instructions http://youtu.be/HNISXWIYaQc We are also looking for distributors around the globe if you know anyone. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1AlhsHJQRVpL4-JWJO6B-UCrGkuS7fbTS3YEJ8hgj70A/pub?start=true&loop=false&delayms=240000 So if you know anyone please let them know. Regards

Feb 19, 2015

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Bruce Felix from Pacific Winemaking llc

I agree with comments of other suppliers below. It is important however to pick a supplier that keeps parts for whoever manufactures the product. Tanks need seals, lids, pumps etc etc. Check supply of those as well as the quality.

Mar 11, 2014

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Sienna Patrick from Frees

There have been long debates over American vs. European made equipment. However, as long as we talk about auto parts, I just prefer quality and it often provided at https://autopartsfair.com/ .  Whatever you buy, it must be of high quality and affordable price. 

Feb 21, 2018

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John McGinn from McFinn Technologies, LLC

As a manufacturer of unique and patented American made pumps...we are biased.  I know our customers would say that its not just our equipment but the fact that they can give us a call and talk directly to the manufacturer is a game changer.

Jan 30, 2018

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Rod Silver from XpressFill

One issue that needs to be explored is support and technical assistance.  You will need to confirm that your request for support will be handled expeditiously and thoroughly.  At XpressFill, we manufacture our equipment in the USA and are serious about providing service and support.  Make sure you look at the Kinnek reviews to evaluate the level of support you can expect.

Jun 29, 2016

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Joe Lutomske from ENOTOOLS

     As far as I know, you will be hard pressed to find much made in the USA with the exception of what my company proudly offers from Carlsen & Associates in Healdsburg, California and Custom Metalcraft, Inc. in Springfield Missouri.

    Incidentally, nobody has more American made, American built, domestically available, or domestically processed inputs to commercial-scale alcoholic beverage manufacturing for Processing, Production, and Packaging than ENOTOOLS.COM. Nobody. And that is not accidental. 

Apr 14, 2016

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Sarah Martin from Martin Robotics

With American designed and manufactured equipment, such as Martin Robotics, you are not only supporting your fellow countrymen, you are keeping your long-term costs in check.  Imported replacement parts can have hidden costs far exceeding their high price tag- how long to you have to wait for what you need to get in to the States, & how adversely does that impact your productivity and profitability?  Being in Lincoln, Nebraska we are centrally located and easily ship to anywhere in the US.
As to quality, I will say you should at least not get substandard materials and construction from European supplies as you frequently see from Asian supplier.  However, a high priced price tag does not automatically mean you are looking at the best production.  Innovation is part of the American Spirit for those of us in business for ourselves.  Do not discount a lesser priced American model simply because of a misplaced high quality perception for its Euro counterpart, for you could miss out on a great opportunity.

Mar 1, 2016

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Eric Taubman from T&T Machinery INc

Lets get down to the brass here: 
Any machine can be made or duplicated anywhere.
what is important is :  Quality of Design, Components, metallurgy, Electrics and most importantly support. 
You could have the best design machinery in the world, but if you can't get support or parts you have  nothing.  
We caution our customers to look into the supplier or call on us as we have seen most of the mistakes pop up on the surplus market. 

Bottom line - Get a good reference and you can BUY RIGHT!
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Feb 24, 2016

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Peter O'Brien from Great Engineering

We manufacture the worlds number one in orientation label machine Here in AUSTRALIA. Chivas Regal have bought their 7th BenchMAX from us in July. Enjoy video Chivas Orientation Instructions	http://youtu.be/HNISXWIYaQc

We are also looking for distributors around the globe if you know anyone. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1AlhsHJQRVpL4-JWJO6B-UCrGkuS7fbTS3YEJ8hgj70A/pub?start=true&loop=false&delayms=240000 
So if you know anyone please let them know. 
Regards

Feb 19, 2015

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Ercel Mullins from Winemecca LLP / VGR Eastern

Hello, 

Good question. We have our stainless steel wine tanks manufactured in Italy by an excellent factory. Excellent quality and competitively priced. Each tank is made to each order. We use European steel, state of the art welding, Italian design and craftsmanship. Contact me directly to discuss your needs. Thank you, Andy Brassington

Feb 18, 2014

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Kim Doble from DTM Packaging, LLC

We supply equipment we make in Massachusetts as well as equipment from Italy.
We supply local service and support is supplied in both cases and we design the equipment from Italy to have US commercial components readily available.  Having a local office for European equipment is essential for follow-up service and support.

Nov 13, 2013

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Ralph Eibert from Prospero Equipment Corp.

Both the U.S. and Europe have excellent suppliers of equipment.  As well they also have poor suppliers.  Its a mix bag of suppliers.  Take Pete's advice and make sure you check into the specific supplier and the manufacturer so you know where and who its coming from.  

Nov 5, 2013

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Pete Arguile from Liquid Solutions

I use great suppliers in both the US and Europe - mainly Italy, but have also come across really poor manufacturers in both, and we're talking about equipment quality, and service. You simply can't generalise about a country or its people! Check out your supplier thoroughly first: you soon get a feel how professional and trustworthy they are.

Oct 22, 2013

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